Over at Knitten' Kittens this post recently appeared http://knitten-kittens.com/2007/05/01/an-interesting-comment.aspx . To understand this, you must first know the history leading up to it. Christ Lutheran Church is the church I grew up in and went to during my early adult life. CLC (as I"ll refer to it) has alot of history with generations of families attending. However, in the past few years Satan did enter this church causing a split (just as he intended to) which caused a good portion of the attenders to leave and start they're own church Christ Community Church (CCC).
The issue was that the CCC's no longer wanted to be affiliated with the ELCA. CCC claimed that the ELCA no longer followed Biblical standards. The ELCA believed in abortion and gay rights and did not believe the Bible as the Word of God. CCC wanted to leave the ELCA and become a Independent Lutheran Church. I don't need to tell you this got ugly - Satan definately was working in this church and he was enjoying it. In the end the CCC lost and as I stated above left and started their own church.
I can't help but wonder that had the CCC won that day, how would CLC have changed? Would there still be a traditional service and a contemporary one? I think there would of been. Would the traditional service be the same as it is now? I think it would be. I don't think anything would of changed regardless how the vote would of went. So the only issue is this ELCA thing.
I went to the ELCA site. Here's what ELCA believes:
- This church confesses the Triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
- This church confesses Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and the Gospel as the power of God for the salvation of all who believe
- Jesus Christ is the Word of God incarnate, through whom
everything was made and through whose life, death, and
resurrection God fashions a new creation.
- The proclamation of God's message to us as both Law and Gospel
is the Word of God, revealing judgment and mercy through word
and deed, beginning with the Word in creation, continuing in the
history of Israel, and centering in all its fullness in the person and
work of Jesus Christ.
- The canonical Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments are the
written Word of God. Inspired by God's Spirit speaking through
their authors, they record and announce God's revelation centering
in Jesus Christ. Through them God's Spirit speaks to us to create
and sustain Christian faith and fellowship for service in the
- This church accepts the canonical Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments as the inspired Word of God and the authoritative source and norm of its proclamation, faith, and life.
- This church accepts the Apostles', Nicene, and Athanasian Creeds as true declarations of the faith of this church.
- This church accepts the Unaltered Augsburg Confession as a true witness to the Gospel, acknowledging as one with it In faith and doctrine all churches that likewise accept the teachings of the Unaltered Augsburg Confession.
- This church accepts the other confessional writings in the Book of Concord, namely, the Apology of the Augsburg Confession, the Smalcald Articles and the Treatise, the Small Catechism, the Large Catechism, and the Formula of Concord, as further valid interpretations of the faith of the Church.
- This church confesses the Gospel, recorded in the Holy Scriptures and confessed in the ecumenical creeds and Lutheran confessional writings, as the power of God to create and sustain the Church for God's mission in the world.
I highlighted number "3" as the CCC claimed the ELCA does not accept the Bible as God's word. Hmmmm....wonder what site they were actually looking at when they found their information? Certainly not the above "official" site. For a more detailed understanding of how they view the Bible - you can read here: http://www.elca.org/questions/Results.asp?recid=16 . Interested in their standing on Gay Issues - go here: http://www.elca.org/questions/Results.asp?recid=19 .
Abortion? Go here: http://www.elca.org/questions/Results.asp?recid=51 .
I don't know about anyone else but I don't want to be part of a congregation that shuns the homosexuals or the woman that had an abortion. These are issues that exist in the world today and the church must be prepared to deal with them. So I don't think it was wrong that the ELCA tried to find a common ground. We can't spread God's Word to these people if we turn our backs on them. We're to teach the Gospel to everyone, not just a select few.
But what struck me most about the comment left at KnittenKittens was this: "We did not want to stay in a church where the Word of God wasn't considered infallible by all." "INFALLIBLE", of course, means that CLC doesn't believe and we know that is an untrue statement. Neither side is "infallible" and I can do no more then prayer for this unknown person that made such a hateful and judgemental comment (God knows who you are, so he'll see that my prayer gets through). And Kim's blog is just that - KIM'S BLOG - she can write and say whatever she would like and you should offer her that respect, after all she very respectfully let you voice your opinion there when she easily could of just deleted it. And if you don't like her blog - don't read it. The same policy goes for mine.
I'm going to leave everyone today with 1 Corinthians 1:10:
"I beg you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to stop arguing among yourselves. Let there be real harmony so that there won't be splits in the church. I plead with you to be of one mind, united in thought and purpose." (LB Version).